Sunday, 22 March 2009
Dubstep Dwellers
There are many different types of Dubstep dwellers. So many, in fact, that I could write a book fit for an A-level sociology class on them. But I’m talking about a specific group here. The sort that you find in the darkest corner of every Vagabonds and FWD. The types that stand by the DJ booth waiting for Plastician to finish so they can spud him and say ‘ sick set man’. The type that boast to their friends about how they gave N-Type one of their beats they made on garage band.
I’m talking about the girls in those Reebok things. Workouts? Classics? No. Them high top 80’s American tourist things which have been updated in neon or with gold stripes that they insist on wearing with leggings to show the full (vomit inducing) boot off. They enter the club with their make-up fresh, their hair shining and just a little bit tipsy. They leave at 6am with their makeup down to their chin, their hair tied into a sweaty bun and their jaw moving faster than a top of the range dildo.
The only Men attracted to these women are the Dubstep guys. Guys whose voices have barely broke wearing clothes their mother clearly picked up for them on her way home from her social work job. They wear their trainers until their holey sock comes out the bottom. Until the once red and white dunk highs are now only one color- brown- matching the rest of their muddy colored attire.
They stretch that ten pound note that mum gave them to buy a bottle of Captain Morgan’s which they sneak in down their ill fitting, scuffed bottomed jeans. They then buy one coke at the bar, mix half and drink the rest straight. After a couple of bumps or K from their beloved K-head/ dealer / wasteman friend they are ready to hit the dance floor and show off those moves they’ve been practicing in their bedroom. These moves consist of hunching their back and waving their arms about in time (almost) to the beat. Every time ‘Night’ comes on they might do the old gun fingers, shout ‘TUNE’ then revert back to the same gorrila-esq position.
Now I’m not sure where these people come from. I mean, I know they’re all from North and the suburbs of London but how did they become so obsessed? I reckon they evolved from that drum and bass culture of not caring what you look/ smell/ dance like and jumped on the next scene that allowed them to do that. These people damage all five of my senses. They ruin nights. They give Dubstep a bad name. If you are one of these people then please, if not for my sake but for the aesthetics of Dubstep raves; have a shower, buy some new clothes and maybe get a subordinate hobby. If not, then stick to the drum and bass.
Dubstep is open to everyone.
ReplyDeleteIts about the music. Appreciate the music. If people are devoted to a music and enthusiastic about it u cant knock em.
ReplyDeleteThere are plenty of bougie dubstep nights out there but they lack the gritty dubby dubstep darkness.
Dubstep originated from drum and bass so the crowd will naturally follow. The same way garage and d'n'b became mainstream dub will do the same...
ReplyDeleteyeh all this fucking moaning about dubstep these days is getting boring.
ReplyDeletenon stop rants on forums and whatever else.
the beauty that endless amounts of people comment about dubstep is that it´s completely open to everyone.
if you go to other nights that you fail to mention such as dmz or forward on a sunday night you will realise that people from 18 - 40 can be seen lurking in the dark corners next to the stacks.
but of course at the end of the day this is merely your opinion.
its well written can´t knock that.
But anther person´s attire is so irrelevant in a decent dubstep dance i.e. one where caspa and rusko are not playing.
dubstep didnt really originate from drum n bass.
ReplyDeletealot of people will tell you that.
the evolution was a lot more noteable from garage through to dark garage and so forth.
obviously drum n bass comes into dubstep, as does jazz, funk and whatever else.
also dub is not dubstep
dub is a completely different genre.
please REFRAIN from calling dubstep - DUB
but how about shes not talking about the music
ReplyDeleteshes talking about people that go to dubstep raves
AND HOW THEY DONT WASH
ALIE YOU SHOULD HAVE A SHOWER B 4 U GO OUT......
She did mention FWD...
ReplyDeleteok, there was no specification if she was referring to it on a sunday night or when it collaborates with rinse.
ReplyDeletethe turn out between the two can be very different.
I don't see what being dirty has anything to do with it
ReplyDeleteI lik eto go skating and then go out
I'm not trying to impress anyone I have a dope gf so my attire doesn't matter, who cares if my shoes have holes in or what jumper im wearing, I can understand if your a fashion head and that but surely a rave of any sort isn't about clothes, looks, or anything aesthetic unless your purely going to some high end garage or hip hop night where everyone is competing to look the 'freshest'
sorry it just seems mad arrogant.
I agree about the girls with them leggings though, not for fashion but for gods sake if you got fat thighs wear a dress int it :)
Don't generally watch others at raves. Especially @ dubstep ones.
ReplyDeleteI know quite a few people that don't attend them due to the crowd it attracts, but they're not really 'involved' I guess. (i.e. I think they're more on the funky house vibes).
Each to their own.
phoebe went hard.
ReplyDeletetop JOKE
you should do something similar for grime.
ReplyDeletenot sure what you´d say.
but its an idea.
that might get some interesting feedback.
i kinda like this girl . . .
ReplyDeleteLol at how everyone pars off the fact that Dubstep's closest relative is probably grime.
ReplyDeleteThe article started promising but after the first/second paragraph it went downhill.
Most dubstep is pretty close to gutter music. A mixture of many gutter genres, it's dark, it's gritty, it's disgusting. It attracts people from the gutter. I don't know about you but I'd rather be jamming with these types of people than fucking middle class posers who are like 'yo that tune was seen!!' :|
It really doesn't matter how people dress to a RAVE, a word which means it's going to be an all night, none stop skanking affair. So bun wearing fresh trainers for them to get stomped on.
Oh and since the 80's drugs at a rave has been common practice and is pretty much what made it a rave. So don't even go there.
I don't really know how you expect people to be dancing either, I don't wanna see no winding or coreographed moves myself, i'd rather get hype and do what ever the music suggests.
I don't really know what you're complaining for tbh.
i agree ^^
ReplyDeleteFrom the looks of it, the purpose of this moan wasn't to insult anyone, more to create a discussion, from the standpoint of someone that goes to dubstep raves for the music, it's quite a throwaway aspect to look at peoples clothes, but this isn't world changing literature we're talking about, it's just a joke blog post.. I remember days of people dressing up to go raving, it was about music AND how you were dressed, just another ingredient to a night.. not saying clothes are an important factor to a good night, but things have definitely changed, and this COULD be seen as a commentary on that.. Either way, I'm happy to see reasonable debate and discussion on here after what seems like an eternity of pre-school insults.
ReplyDeleteseems like your a bit jealous of everyone having fun at these raves. maybe you should stop watching everyone else and enjoy the music. waste
ReplyDeletewhich category do you fit into then ?
ReplyDeleteooo...i think this girl is here to do one thing only...n that is stir shit up...i like it...
ReplyDeletedefintaley liking your style pheobe.more posts soon!
ReplyDeleteamen to that above.
ReplyDeleteyou have really failed love!
amen
ReplyDeleteI agree with what H from Steps has said.
ReplyDeleteIt was definitely time to get some healthy debate into this blog and reduce the amount of throw away insults that anons had been coming with left right and centre with no reasoning.
Despite not agreeing completely with what Phoebe has said, I appreciate its her own opinion.
Obviously some will agree, some won´t.
Worst post ive ever seen on BNTL.
ReplyDeletebore off and stop watchin other people and enjoy the rave. i dont no wot i do when im in one,coz of alcohol, but if i do do that,i dont care. im enjoyin the music.
like that other guy said, Dubstep is gutter music so ul probs see people from the gutter. and look Another guy said,its not bout what u wear,its the music. Skream int exactly best dressed! and hes an orignator!
what do u do at a rave exactly phoebe sip ur malibu and coke in the corner or the dance floor?
funny post in a non-serious way or a discussion rasier but im more concerned with the amount of vice cunts in retro 80's shit and topman clear-lense wayfarers turning up. better to not try than to look like that shit
ReplyDeleteDubstep is gutter sounding music, but people that attend aren't literally from the gutter, but are happy to give that illusion. Mostly internet goons that don't have a great deal of social interaction. And nowadays it's full of uni art fags.. and the trendy crowd gets involved of course due to the proximity of most of these events in Shoreditch.
ReplyDeleteIt was a nice read nevertheless!
ReplyDelete(i.e. nicely written)
dumb post.
ReplyDeletewhy do you care?
worst post on BNTL.
This post was funny and light hearted, people take themselves too seriously, and reacted negatively to this because some truths were drawn.
ReplyDeletei read this blog for the comments, more than the content.
ReplyDeletewtf?
ReplyDeleteodd.
this blog gives me jokes and what gives me more jokes is that all you people gunning it in your bait ways supports her arguement more.
ReplyDeleteWow Phoebe your so cool and alternative...
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ReplyDeletewaaaaastemen?? sorry "gyal demz"
ReplyDeletelool dat gal slewed yollz hard. braap.
ReplyDeletesaj....u dont know shit, thinking uve got it all sussed out, go to bed please. thanks
ReplyDeleteLOL.
ReplyDeleteyour comment was the most productive thing i read all day. you even sound like a fassi saying please and thanks together, yet still trying to sound funny. fully waiting for your comeback
ReplyDeletePhoebe isn't real. Its more than likely, its one of the goons from BNTL. Maybe Legohead or Smallron. The photo of the skinny girl is ripped from somewhere and the BNTL blog needs more hits.
ReplyDeleteIt's either that or conspiracy no.2 is that Phoebe is real, BNTL needs more hits, so they had a friend who's got a wide, dirty mouth-piece who loves a bit of debate to post unproductive slobber to get all you who-la-gerns whaling like Goody's mother.
definately got the debate going though he he
ReplyDeleteFrom your photo, you look about as unclean as the dubstep dwellers you are slewing...
ReplyDeleteJust Trav stinks standud! its gone past the stage of day to day deodrants this kid needs a sheep dip and worming! you troll!
ReplyDeletethis is no slating of your work just purely the smell of shit that fills the room when you enter!
fleas?
ReplyDeletefleas dont even like him that much blud
ReplyDeletePhoebe looks grubby...like she hasnt had a wash for weeks...the type of girl to just keep layering make up on top of make up...do your skin a favour and have a wash...
ReplyDeleteSaj...u sound like my english teacher from year 10? is it really you Mr Groves?
ReplyDeletei get what your saying but you've prob used the worst pic possible to show your point.
ReplyDeleteent she from ACTN.
ReplyDeleteregardless whether the post is gd or not or whether she kool sexy or not.
shes drawed over 60 comments!
ATCN*
ReplyDeletewell as long as you aint slating my work then mate. He he
ReplyDeletesome erotic pictures of phoebe are whats needed to stop all this hate.
ReplyDeletemake it happen
u belong to the old blue last u,get a context no one cares in a dark room with a great system what people wear!u will never find the essence of music.
ReplyDeleteStick to your west end clubs girl if your soo bothered about what people are wearing !!
ReplyDeleteI would advise you to stay well away from DMZ love .. I don't think you would last a minute in there and from the lack of your dubstep knowledge it is blantently obvious you have just jumped on the dubstep bandwagon to seem trendy ! WASTEFACE !!
Congrats on your superficial writing and on your minimal and ignorant thoughts.
ReplyDeleteI would say the same even if you were writing about death metal or pop.
If you have some criticism, it would be nice if it were at least constructive - if it's music-related then please, speak about music.
Mentioning how they dress
"clothes their mother clearly picked up for them on her way home from her social work job"
or even worse
"They stretch that ten pound note that mum gave them to buy a bottle of Captain Morgan’s which they sneak in down their ill fitting, scuffed bottomed jeans
is - excuse me, a bit pointless and slightly pathetic.
You must be really lucky...I suppose your mum gives you a hundred instead.
nakie pictures!
ReplyDeleteThe problem with this post is, it isnt at all accurate Phoebe. Ive been going to Drum and Bass raves in London for the best part of 10 years, and i can tell you now that you will find a tiny amount of the people you are talking about in any One Nation, BOB, or Innovation.
ReplyDeleteInfact Drum and Bass culture in London has always been about dressing crisp and looking good. Maybe you are talking about another city?
As for FWD it has changed in the last year, but you cant generalise the whole scene just because of that. Its been running for much longer and i can tell you out of the 50 odd people i know that have been going on the the regs for years, not one of them is rolling like any of your description's in this post.
To assume these people are all from North and the suburbs is off key also.
Sorry but this is my thoughts.
Tango
Tans comment covers everything I've been wanting to say.
ReplyDeleteSorry but I don't condone any of the views and opinions written in this post.
YOUR FIRED!
ReplyDeleteHahaha witts you fruit bat, you don't know the first thing about raves in London, fall back immediately.
ReplyDeleteif you arnt one of those getting down and dirty in the rave with booze stashed in your bag, you must be one standing at the back worrying about looking good having no fun.
ReplyDeletePhoebe isn't real. Its more than likely, its one of the goons from BNTL. Maybe Legohead or Smallron. The photo of the skinny girl is ripped from somewhere and the BNTL blog needs more hits.
ReplyDeleteIt's either that or conspiracy no.2 is that Phoebe is real, BNTL needs more hits, so they had a friend who's got a wide, dirty mouth-piece who loves a bit of debate to post unproductive slobber to get all you who-la-gerns whaling like Goody's mother.
i read this blog for the comments, more than the content.
ReplyDeleteshe is real, proper slag from what ive heard
ReplyDeletephoebe are you serious? do you not understand what has happened here? it is a classic formula.
ReplyDeletescene forms close to gutter with credibility and integrity.
the trendy crowd flock to it
the second wave trendy crowd (you) get involved but prefer the 1st wave trendy crowd and their cameras to the founders or spectacle itself.
venues/ organisers cater to your sort due to root of all evil.
originators get alienated, scene looses its edge.
cycle starts again.
this post doesnt deserve 78 comments...i dont know why im adding to that stat
ReplyDeleteAs much as you might like to talk about Phoebe, one thing she is not is IGNORANT.
ReplyDeleteShe works in the club that supposedly holds the heart of dubstep and was the first club to have a regular dubstep night and also assists tim and barry on their work.
She is just airing her distaste for a certain group of people.
doesnt deserve the amount of comments at all but she is proper dickhead so i guess it needs to be said
ReplyDeleteallow getting youre friends to come on and defend you ^^^^^^
ReplyDeletethis is great. so many people who actually know what theyre talking about. thank god.
ReplyDeletehahaha she obviously is. anyone could work behind a bar or whatever. theres people who have been into and a part of this genre of music for years. and im sure however they feel about it going more mainstream and more people from different backgrounds and general crowds attending, they probably wouldnt air it like this lass has done. please recognise that she definitely is ignorant. come back when you know what youre on about, and have been to various nights for 3 years plus. cheers.
ReplyDeletebare assumptions coming from anons as usual.
ReplyDeleteregardless of what she said in the post, you cant claim that she is ignorant when you clearly dont know.
get your facts straight and stop making assumptions.
if anyone is ignorant it sounds like you.
her*
ReplyDeleteLets do 100 boys!
ReplyDeleteDubstep to save the rainforests!!
phoebe isnt insulting true dubstep fans or how the raves r gutter, but the people who mearly go to them because it's viewed as something fashionable, arty wanks wearing sweat bands on their ankles to be alternative, therefore its just that she insults their clothes beacuse their shallow an superficial, just like their intentions when turning up at forward on a sunday. on the flip side of that its blatenly a piss take an 2 many ppl are getting hype. so jam, quit bawling, no ones pissed on ur hamsters grave.
ReplyDeleteI've seen more people topping up their drink with shop bought alcohol at Trading Places than I've ever seen at a dubstep rave.
ReplyDeletestop commenting now lads. i'll make it a nice round number. there.
ReplyDeleteThe comments shalst never stoppeth.
ReplyDeleteOffcourse People top up in trading places.
1. Because ATCN would only ever put a night on in a z class celeb joint that rapes punters as the focus is not on the music but on whether dizzee might make a second appearance???
2. Trading places is full of some fake gangstars. Wear zara and think there 'Ballin'. 98% of any icey material on any bezel of any mans watch in that club is cubic zerconia
^^^ real talk
ReplyDeleteWhens the BNTL vs ATCN tag team wrestling match coming???
ReplyDeleteIsit more than a coinsedence that BNTL started a four letter accronym and reggie changed his blogs name from 'prince of zambudia' or whatever it was called to a four letter accronym?
Where did fats' and ginger kids 'real talk' go? Did they finally understand that the concept was nice but in actuality they didnt work well together at ALL and made for some painstaking 'try hard to avoid dead noise' television...
ATCN holds no weight. They sold out before even getting grass roots respect. Sold colourful colaboration tees, done nights at clubs that are infact ABSOLUTELY alienated from the roots of the type of music they play.
Dubstep for mayor
ReplyDeleteMarry me melanie? I like masculine women!
ReplyDeleteWhat tan said.
ReplyDeleteyo mel, i said no fuckin sauce in my morleys burger ye.
ReplyDeletesorry babes
ReplyDeleteill give you 2 free hot wings next time you come in
and i mite throw u a free drink aswell xxxxx
100 deep.
ReplyDeleteSay what you want.
Say what you will.
But BNTL roll blunts and stay trill
Yo wuts crackalakin homeboys. I love the dubstep, you feel me cuhz. Shout out to changing status on tha realz yah feel. Malice in Wonderland cop dat disc yo. Be sho to get that snoop dogg millionaire fo reazil. Ayo joker what's good yo no showing at FWD n shit player, better clear up that bitchassness so we can get collabizatting cuhz.
ReplyDeleteBig homie snoop dogg out, and pheobes, why don't you hollah, come hollah, you gon hollah.......at deeeze nutz
lets make it 200!
ReplyDelete^^^ .u killed it.
ReplyDeletewhat gives you the bloody right to come on here and give your opinions.
ReplyDeleteyour a naughty, spiteful young girl who deserves to be tied up with celo tape, stripped naked and spat on by hard meat.
you dirty little so and so
Holy shit...105 comments?
ReplyDeletemelanie you are a fucking moron! how can u cum on here calling out people who comment blogs on the grounds that you don't have time!
ReplyDeletefirst of all its their prerogative
second you are commenting on their comments which puts you lower down the food chain and contradicts your quoted time constraints
and third she may not have actually spelled out a request for comments, but the whole rant was geared towards outrage, and why shouldnt people counter her (misguided) opinion with theirs? seeing as the internet gives everyone the anonymity (if you choose) and global reach to speak freely and not only be heard, but have people care since twitter and facebook changed the value of coughing, sneezing and farting FOREVER.
last time bntl got this much hype in such a short time was when some ex writer wrote something on valentines day and enearthed an eternity of ex girlfriends coming and running their gums.
ReplyDeletebut seriously you lot should allow the filthy remarks, you wouldnt be coming with those to any girls face in public.
Omarion i steamed through your girl last night. Nice piece of cunt
ReplyDeletenakie pictures?
ReplyDeletehahahahahaaha
ReplyDeleteNa they are all clean mat and rons mums buy them all there clothes
ReplyDelete..i thought that was jack?
ReplyDeletepheobe has a musty gusset. i want to use her steamy panties as a hammock.
ReplyDeletet lives in a ditch
ReplyDeletejack has a job its the other lot who live off moms
ReplyDelete^^ you sound like a freaky stalker. how do you know what these man do?
ReplyDeleteyou lot are loops.
ReplyDeletehaha i started reading this yesterday and the comments went up and up.
ReplyDeletei find it amazing how some people come out with the dribble they do, i think the intention was to get as much response as possible, and the outcome has shown that.
probably the most popular post on bntl.
congrats.
p.s not deserved.
do you find amazing do you??? haha sad
ReplyDeletethis girl must be over happy with this resonse, 124 comments even the gingerkunt beef didnt get that many comments
ReplyDeletei bet she's sitting at home now crafting further contoversy.
whatever works i guess
shit post in itself but glad this comment madness happened
better than being force fed brightly coloured brummies!
paar
ReplyDeletehey phoebe i've been trying to get intouch with you ever since that night in 06 backstage when me n the boys batteried... what a coincidence that u now write on my favourite blog :) please add me on facebook or myspace we should do it again sometime
ReplyDeletedouglas x
people need to get out make some friends and stop this air talk
ReplyDeleteso do you dont you see there is no moral high ground to be had once you add to the comments
ReplyDeletethe fact is this girl has smashed it!
ReplyDelete..over a ton of comments on her first post! an it aint stoppin anytime soon!
love her or hate her, your all coming back
whats it matter that your all mates? your only virtual mates coz none of u ever leave your bedroom except to flush ur cumwad tissues that collect around your bedside.
ReplyDeleteAlan you stink trench, were coming back for these comments, not for the total garbage this slut wrote days ago.
ReplyDelete"flush ur cumwad tissues that collect around your bedside." speaking from experience. haha mate i think its funny that u pretend to know what all the anons are up when there anonymous!!! haha how fucking dumb are you, crease up
ReplyDelete"Phoebe P dictates your behaviour. You only wrote a shitty offensive comment becuase she had the priveledge of posting.
ReplyDeleteThen your coming back becuase she gave you fucks a controversial opinion to suck on."
bravo. give this man a gold star for being totally right.
dont speak silly!
ReplyDeletethis girl wrote something to create controversy
and has she done that?..
Give dubstep a bad name? Over presented, cliquey, fitted cap brigades give dubstep a bad name.
ReplyDeleteThat thesaurus must be worn to the spine.